A Mehow Controversy?
January 24, 2007 by Joseph Matthews
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I got an email from a girl named Elisa concerning some very strange news from the Mehow camp. I don’t know if there’s any truth to it, but here’s the email…
Elisa writes:
FYI:
The COO of Mehow.tv is Certainty, also known as Squirrel, also known as Rob L. of San Diego. He was an approach coach at the June 9th MM Atlanta Bootcamp and got horrible reviews.
Mehow is Michal P. He has his own computer security company called: MKP Security. He’s a former hacker and can take down the MM site in a second, in addition to monitor it secretly for competitive information. I’d be surprised if he’s not doing that already. You can be sure he’s tracking the IP addresses of everyone on the mehow.tv forum.If Mystery method is really suing Mehow then these posts by your disgruntled students definitely demonstrate Mehow, Lovedrop and the like were not acting in good faith. They used this bootcamp to propell their exit from The Mystery Method.
Squirrel posted regularly on the MM Lounge. MM should put post these on the public forum. I imagine they are not flattering. The way I see it, “Mehow Method” = $900 bottle service. Mehow, Certainty and their students need to write “laid out” reports, not LRs. Bottle service is truly B.S., and not a PUA skillset
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FROM ATLANTA BOOTCAMP REVIEWS MM POSTS:Squirrel kept dissapearing all weekend and me and my two buddies didn’t get any feedback or talking time with him except during seminar.
Squirrel went and did a demo set without telling us he was going in and I didnt notice him until he was in comfort. He stayed in the one set a long time so didn’t get much out of that.
During night 2 Squirrel picked up a chick in the line to the club and then buddied up with one of the students and they all went to the VIP area the student bought and noone else had access to. Sunday Squirrel was heard bragging about how he talked to her all night and timebridged her to fly out to San Diego and how she was just his type… While he was supposed to be teaching. So now the student teacher ratio was 11-2! Lovedrop started coaching towards the end of the night and it helped a little.
Lovedrop’s seminar was fantastic, Dynamic rocked (when you could get hold of him) Mehow was good at demo’ing and telling you what you did WELL and squirrel was err where WAS squirrel??
Also it really pissed me off when Mehow said he was doing Mehow Method and he wouldn’t teach it. I understand that different instructors have different styles, but I expect them to EXPLAIN IT! I see now that it was his last BC before he started his own company so that probably explains it why he didn’t want to teach.
Mehow said he didn’t work for MM and wasn’t able to discuss half the stuff he was doing and squirrel was ‘missing’ most of the time. It became a running joke with the 11 oither students playing ‘where’s squirrel’
Mehow was cool too, but like Levo said.. when you’d ask him about material he’d be like “I can’t teach that, it isn’t MM” etc (I see why he couldn’t teach non MM at a BC, but I expected the coaches to be using MM material for the BC)
Squirrel was hard to find and I saw him spend most of his time on one student, I forget his name (don’t think he posts) who was shared the most similarities. The said student and squirrel hung out almost exclusively, it felt like he was getting a 1v1 almost, lol. This understandably ticked me off a bit. I did like Squirrels extra seminar though.
I don’t think Squirrel or Mehow were official coaches they were just giving LD a hand (there was another BC running the same weekend), but Dynamic was and it showed (in a good way).
Certainty on mehow.tv: (What is real post from the Lounge?)
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AJ was kind enough to grab my original post. Here it is, with minor editing:
LR: Lucky 7: 100% F-Close, 0% LMR
HB9blondLongIsland, HB8AsianNutBall; HB8BlondNewport; HB8BlondMMLV; HB7OBBrunette; HB8ManicMormon; HB8Vegan; HB9petiteLebonese.
Technically, that’s 8, but Lucky 8 doesn’t sound as good as Lucky 7. Normally I wouldn’t use “Lucky” to describe an F-Close, because there is no such thing as Luck when it comes to an HB. “Luck is for the AFC who stumbles on an HB so horny she is willing to overlook his personality to have sex. Much like a drunk AMOG overlooks a 30 lb weight problem and butter-face to get laid.” – Certainty.
Field tested D1 S1-S3 process yields 100% F-close results with no LMR.
After many years of being stopped by girls in S2 (I only learned about S2 recently) I have finally devised an LMR strategy that consistently works. But first, a little background.
Before the community, I had had only 1 one-night stand. I could never get the girl to have sex with me. I had great Comfort, very good Seduction including the ability to give a girlfriend multiple C-spot orgasms, but couldn’t get a girl to have sex with me on the first night. They would always wait until we were more serious about each other, which usually initiated an unintended LTR. I have had numerous situations where I was in bed, half naked, and the girl said “no”. I was trained by society to stop at that point. So, like a good AFC, I did. I also became frustrated and angry with the girl, hence my AFC label. If she didn’t want to have sex, then why would she go all this far to just stop and say “no”?
It turns out, I was supposed to pause, not stop. “No” means “I’m too hot and bothered to continue right now, I need to take a breather.” When I first read about LMR in the MM materials, I was astonished. This is supposed to happen? It is hard wired into her physiology and psychology? It isn’t me? Quite the eye opener.
After learning about LMR, I started to follow MM’s somewhat successful process for overcoming LMR . It’s a really basic cycle. She needs to stop, take a breather, and start again. She will let you know when she is ready to stop. It is up to you to be non-reactive, take a step back, and continue again in the future. She is specifically designed to be turned on by start, stop, start; lather, rinse, repeat. It is in this cycle that she gains her sexual arousal to meet mine. She needs to pursue to gain arousal, but must also have me take responsibility for her behavior. She hunts, is hunted, and hunts again to get turned on.
As a Man, I am turned on by the sight of an extremely sexy HB9 or HB10. I can become physically aroused by just the sight of a naked HB. An HB is wired completely differently. She’s having 10 thoughts for every one of mine. She also carries guilt and shame. I would hate to be an HB.
I took Mystery’s LMR process and added to it. I now have a 100% (across 8 HBs) process that effectively ensures I never have to go on a date until after we have had sex. I am starting to live the life of my gay male friends who have sex before they go on a date, and it is expected.
If I had known about LMR just a few years ago, my lay ratio would have been much higher. If you read to this point and are wondering what the process is, you’ll have to wait for my next posting. I wrote this for the SD Crew, but I’m not sure I should post it here. It is really out there.
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Certainty.President / COO Mehow, Inc.
Hmmmm. Interesting.
“Elisa” is my ex girlfriend. When we were dating I was certain I was going to marry her. I had never been so in love. She was the reason I learned what I know, and was the goal for all of my education and training. We as a couple were incredibly happy. I taught her to squirt, which I learned through the community.
Elisa left me because I had created the LMR Bypass process. I have rehearsed it a couple more times since we broke up. I am writing up the process because it is so perfect to share with the community. If you get the girl in your house, she will do anything to have sex with you. I do not ever have LMR, ever. No S2. Imagine that!
Postings regarding my Approach Coaching were made by people who didn’t interact with me. Those who did had nothing but rave reviews. I did not spend enough time with the other students in the class, which is a lesson I have learned. We at mehow.tv keep our classes small so we can provide one on one attention.
Why this posting was allowed to get past the editing staff and get posted is a flagrant breach of privacy, and really bad judgement on the behalf of the editors of this site. Why would a “random” girl go through all this to point out who I am? Are we now going to allow disgruntled ex-girlfriends to attack us? Let the first without a disgruntled ex please stand up.
Silence… Huh?!
This is hilarious. It seems that “Elisa” went to great lengths to concoct some sort of story about us.
“laid out” reports — she knows I don’t even drink. In fact, she was infield with us a ton and knows us very well and was down right super chipper until her and C broke up.
Yup, professionally I’m a hacker. But “He’s a former hacker and can take down the MM site in a second, in addition to monitor it secretly for competitive information” although flattering is an insane insinuation.
Monitoring IPs ? Everybody does that. We do to. The forum software has all that enabled and built in. This prevents fake posters.
To set the record straight on Mehow vs MM.
There is no Mehow vs. MM. I stopped working with MM, when myself and Nick could not come to terms. We parted amicably. I left the MM lounge a while later because when I read the terms during the transfer from the old system to the new system I didn’t like the terms. I actually didn’t even know whether the terms changed or not during the transfer.
There is no grand conspiracy. Space aliens don’t run the international space station and Elvis is dead.
All this is highly amusing. Keep the crazy posts coming! It’s like reading about yourself in the Enquirer.
And btw, Certainty is working on the no LMR write-up and it will be available soon (for free).
Meanwhile you can check out our first product announcement at:
http://mehow.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?p=913#913
-m
Hi guys,
Just want to let you know that I have tons of respect for men who learn how to overcome a fear of approaching women. I can tell you there is nothing more frustrating than a shy guy. It’s my hope that some of these bootcamps can dig in and focus more on inner game because ultimately that is what keeps the quality women you want and leads to success in life overall. Inner game focus is lacking in this community right now.
Disgruntled ex? Rob and I are friends. I loved Rob and have enormous respect for him. This guy is the epitome of self-made and an example for anyone who wants to turn their life around. Rob is a master businessmind and it’s no surprise he’s COO of Mehow.tv. Mehow is right– I know them well– to the point that I’ve always thought Rob could do better. I don’t trust Mehow, his intentions or sincerity.
This community needs transparency. I can never support broadcasting to the world secret videos in which girls who don’t know they are being recorded reveal some very personal things, while the PUA edits out anything he doesn’t want you to know. That’s the kind of behavior that reinforces the sleazebag image that’s out there. If you expect to go mainstream so that people can appreciate what’s good about PUA, you’ve got to stop lurking in the shadows, posting your LRs behind locked forums. You’ve got to stop treating each interaction with a woman as a potential FR/LR, or practice on a theory/product you want to release. Be present with the women you pursue and you just might be surprised.
Hope to meet up with some of you in a club somewhere soon. If you need a female opinion, that is!
You guys know I don’t like to get in on the gossip stuff as much as my mate Thundercat here, but…
Elisa, this was the same problem Dolly had with a certain PUA named Affection who started Project Manhattan (whatever the hell that’s supposed to be). My co-worker actually met him at a silent party thing in NYC and told me he totally weirded out girls he was with, and the girl actually ended up having sex with my friend.
Anyways, these pickup artists clearly are smooth, when they have women complaining about them.
Go with Stephen Nash, Pickup 101 or even just Sinn
ROFL. There you have it folks. Thundercat posted the rantings of an ex that after writing her first post is now saying they are friends. This is great, I couldn’t make this stuff up even if I wanted to. -m
You have to work on that limiting belief, mehow. =)
Elisa,
Just know that there are a LOT of guys out here who agree with you
that the “community” needs transparency.
Stop with the goofy nicknames, guys. Stop with the secrecy. Stop with the manipulation and tricks and all the gambits. The more you hide yourself, the more reason everyone has to doubt everything you say. Own up to who you are and be proud of it, dude.
You’re working to get better with women? Sweet! That’s a good thing. That’s a cool thing. Why hide it, unless you are doing something you really are ashamed of, or unless you aren’t doing what you say?
Girls know the game you are playing. They know it better than you. So start playing along, and start listening to them instead of pretending they don’t understand anything about dating.
When we were playing in the mud and throwing rocks at each other, they were talking about dating, flirting and relationships. WOMEN are the experts, and if you talk to them, and occasionally listen, you can learn something.
The secret in secret society has got to go, or the whole thing is gonna die. This shit needs to be in the public. It needs to be in elementary schools. Put it in the drinking water. Men need to learn how to be their most attractive selves so we can ALL have great, hot, passionate relationships that make us happy.
Start by trying to hear what the woman is telling you.
“You got to listen to the woman, Billy Ho.”
White Men Can’t Jump
Peace,
Sean
Disagree. Society isn’t ready for what the community is all about. It’s like the metrosexual movement. Try to introduce that in the 70s and see what happens. Oh sure there were guys getting manicures and taking care of their skin and dressing well in the 70s…but they kept it secret. They had enough sense to know that society wasn’t ready for it. Perhaps one day in the near future society will mature and accept what we’re doing. But right now…it’s too early. You couldnt sugar coat it enough to make it socially acceptable.